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	<title>Comments on: Pittsburgh gets terrible ranking on NRDC&#8217;s &#8220;Smarter Cities&#8221; Sustainability Score</title>
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		<title>By: erok</title>
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		<dc:creator>erok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also, as far is green building goes, they did look at the number of buildings that received an energy star rating, which, i believe, older buildings can obtain thru retrofit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also, as far is green building goes, they did look at the number of buildings that received an energy star rating, which, i believe, older buildings can obtain thru retrofit.</p>
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		<title>By: erok</title>
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		<dc:creator>erok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all valid points.  

i&#039;m skeptical of the green hype of other cities too, but there is no doubt in my mind that pittsburgh is behind the &quot;greening&quot; curve.  

things that some people here call &quot;innovative&quot; or &quot;forward thinking,&quot; like putting bike racks on the front of buses for instance, have been in other cities for years.  and they at least outfitted all of the buses, not just a select few lines that may or may not come with one.

i have to say that i was a bit surprised at our paltry rank. much of the data they cite is also most likely dependent on the city actually updating the information.  considering that the brady st bridge is still on some maps, i wouldn&#039;t be surprised if the data wasn&#039;t accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all valid points.  </p>
<p>i&#8217;m skeptical of the green hype of other cities too, but there is no doubt in my mind that pittsburgh is behind the &#8220;greening&#8221; curve.  </p>
<p>things that some people here call &#8220;innovative&#8221; or &#8220;forward thinking,&#8221; like putting bike racks on the front of buses for instance, have been in other cities for years.  and they at least outfitted all of the buses, not just a select few lines that may or may not come with one.</p>
<p>i have to say that i was a bit surprised at our paltry rank. much of the data they cite is also most likely dependent on the city actually updating the information.  considering that the brady st bridge is still on some maps, i wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the data wasn&#8217;t accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These kind of rankings always reflect a pre-existing bias of some kind or another.  

In this case, they appear to represent a bias in favor of lip service and &quot;conciousness raising&quot; with little regard to actual effectiveness.  For instance, they give a city points for having a large number of LEED-certified buildings -- which rewards cities with lots of new construction happening.  And yet, new construction is almost always less resource-efficient than using an existing building. Also, LEED certifications do reflect building size to some extent, but there are a lot of huge, wildly wasteful, LEED-certified buildings.  That&#039;s not better than a small, older building that was built before LEED.  Also, this study rewards the existence of a &quot;sprawl reduction strategy&quot;, but there&#039;s no mention of whether it matters that sprawl is actually contained or not -- as long as there is a strategy.

As for transportation, &quot;less-polluting transportation options&quot; are great, but it&#039;s at least possible that a short commute in a single-occupancy automobile is less-polluting than a long commute by diesel bus. They shouldn&#039;t be measuring &quot;options that are available&quot;, they should be trying to measure actual pollution produced by actual choices that are actually made.
How about &quot;gallons of diesel, gasoline, and jet fuel sold within the metro area&quot;, per capita? 

And how about &quot;number of houses torn down and landfilled in order to make room for new McMansions with heated swimming pools and hot tubs&quot;?

Or simply &quot;volume of trash sent to landfills, per capita&quot;

In other words, I don&#039;t believe the green hype for other cities either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These kind of rankings always reflect a pre-existing bias of some kind or another.  </p>
<p>In this case, they appear to represent a bias in favor of lip service and &#8220;conciousness raising&#8221; with little regard to actual effectiveness.  For instance, they give a city points for having a large number of LEED-certified buildings &#8212; which rewards cities with lots of new construction happening.  And yet, new construction is almost always less resource-efficient than using an existing building. Also, LEED certifications do reflect building size to some extent, but there are a lot of huge, wildly wasteful, LEED-certified buildings.  That&#8217;s not better than a small, older building that was built before LEED.  Also, this study rewards the existence of a &#8220;sprawl reduction strategy&#8221;, but there&#8217;s no mention of whether it matters that sprawl is actually contained or not &#8212; as long as there is a strategy.</p>
<p>As for transportation, &#8220;less-polluting transportation options&#8221; are great, but it&#8217;s at least possible that a short commute in a single-occupancy automobile is less-polluting than a long commute by diesel bus. They shouldn&#8217;t be measuring &#8220;options that are available&#8221;, they should be trying to measure actual pollution produced by actual choices that are actually made.<br />
How about &#8220;gallons of diesel, gasoline, and jet fuel sold within the metro area&#8221;, per capita? </p>
<p>And how about &#8220;number of houses torn down and landfilled in order to make room for new McMansions with heated swimming pools and hot tubs&#8221;?</p>
<p>Or simply &#8220;volume of trash sent to landfills, per capita&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t believe the green hype for other cities either.</p>
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