http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009 The place to get the skinny on the bicycles in the Pittsburgh en-US Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:20:20 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/search.php http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18523 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:33:04 +0000 BradQ 18523@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>3 hours? No way. Thats a 16 or 17mph average. </p> <p>Think 4. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18521 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:03:38 +0000 dmg 18521@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>Having ridden the North Side portion of this, now, I will be pretty pleased if I finish inside of 3 hours. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18484 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:37:49 +0000 mark 18484@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>part of me wants to ride this fixed and take 4 hours just because i know there are only going to be like 2 other fixed riders... i just have to get in before the awards ceremony, which may be challenging. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18476 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:18:58 +0000 BradQ 18476@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>I'm still sitting on the fence, but have talked with DMG about riding together for as much as we can stand... It's just going to hurt so bad. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18472 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:37:28 +0000 Dave 18472@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>FYI: I summarize the most up to date info on another thread: <a href="http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/the-pittsburgh-roubaix-2009-2014" rel="nofollow">http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/the-pittsburgh-roubaix-2009-2014</a> </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18432 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:22:16 +0000 Andrew 18432@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>I would tag along with a rexaled paced group. There is no way I really want to try to navigate this crazy course solo. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18428 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:18:58 +0000 mark 18428@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>ps badass flyer </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18426 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:12:13 +0000 mark 18426@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>hahahahahaha.... i have been out of town for the last four days and wasn't even thinking about this... i'm so excited... i have to build my bikes now! </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18395 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:34:49 +0000 Chris Mayhew 18395@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>That's a 23% downhill. It was very dusty that day too. It's by far one of the scariest things I have been down. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18385 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:31:45 +0000 Lyle 18385@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>Aiiii! That picture just raised my blood pressure by an inch! </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18380 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 06:49:19 +0000 Dave 18380@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>There will be a PB&#38;J stop in the middle &#38; bread, cupcakes &#38; fruit at the end. You're on your own for blankets though. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18379 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:31:57 +0000 Eric 18379@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>I just noticed this is 47 miles on the route you've got on Bikely.</p> <p>Maybe I should bring some food? And a blanket for nap time. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18378 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:55:39 +0000 alankhg 18378@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p><img src="http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/gw07/gw07-marco.jpg" /><br /> use (img src="http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/gw07/gw07-marco.jpg") but with &lt; instead of ( </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18374 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:41:41 +0000 Chris Mayhew 18374@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>Thanks man. No sweat on the rules. Going down cobbles is not much fun.<br /> [img]http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races07/gw07/gw07-marco.jpg[/img]</p> <p>(or however you add an image) </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18370 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:17:17 +0000 reddan 18370@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p><em>i just finally got panniers, so i'd be happy to bring a sixer and some ice</em></p> <p>Sweet. I was just planning on putting a block of ice, some fruit, and some booze in a cooler on the rear rack. Figure with all the cobbly-bits, it'll be a gallon of daiquiri by the halfway point. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18369 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:17:16 +0000 Dave 18369@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>@Mayhew: I should note that the original Roubaix rules allowed you to traverse the cobbles in either direction, so the example course goes up Pioneer and back down Capital. Though come to think of it I think I'd rather go up Capital than down. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18368 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:14:49 +0000 Dave 18368@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>@Mayhew: That route certianly makes more sense, especially since flipping the order to Climax-&gt; Capital-&gt; Wyoming (it was Climax -&gt; Wyoming -&gt; Capital which forced you to head up to Mt. Washington first). I'll update the maps.</p> <p>Anyway, it sounds pretty firmly like Capital is in. @Brad: if you want poetic justice you can work Capital as a check point and get pictures of people's grimacing faces. Or I suppose you could just win the fixed category, that's pretty poetic too.</p> <p>Looking over this new course it makes me think that the fixed gear category winner should get free knee replacement surgery. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18362 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:48:38 +0000 HiddenVariable 18362@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p><em>Anyone wanna help form a "Back of the Pack with Booze and Bravado" brigade?</em></p> <p>i just finally got panniers, so i'd be happy to bring a sixer and some ice. what's another 20 pounds? </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18359 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:33:39 +0000 Eric 18359@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>I second the 18th to Bausman. That was my "snow" route when I worked over there, Sycamore and Williams were rarely plowed in the morning. 18th always was. Easy to navigate too if you know where to turn in Mt Oliver. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18354 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:08:47 +0000 Chris Mayhew 18354@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>Since I suggest Captitol may I make another suggestion? Go up S 18th, come down Bausman. Right on 51 to W. Liberty (it's 300m tops on 51/Saw Mill run). Left up W Liberty left on Capitol, left on Pioneer, back down to W Liberty then up and over Boggs.</p> <p>It's shorter, involves less fooling around on Mt Washington than the proposed route.</p> <p>It's a suggestion, not a criticism. See you this weekend. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18348 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:38:27 +0000 Chris Mayhew 18348@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>Pioneer kinda vaguely works from Capitol if you're heading back to the city. It's all down hill and there's only one cross street. I agree Pioneer is horrible in all other regards.</p> <p>I find it very funny that people are worked up about Capitol despite the fact that it is well within city limits. I don't know *the entire rest of the course* and I plan on doing it. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18326 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:57:47 +0000 Eric 18326@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>I would recommend avoiding Pioneer. I used to commute up West Liberty, I tried Pioneer a few times, had more run ins with cars in a day than a month on West Liberty. Narrow, blind corners, parked cars, etc. West Liberty is faster and safer. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18325 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:46:18 +0000 Dave 18325@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>Sounds like votes are leaning towards Capital. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18324 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:43:00 +0000 danb 18324@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>This course looks AMAZING. Props for putting this together!I say keep capitol, it's not far out of the way and sounds like it'll be a treat. Looking forward to it. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18312 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:50:08 +0000 Lyle 18312@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>I would not survive this. It's a good thing I'm out of town so I'm not tempted to try. Maybe when I get back I'll ride it in stages. Over the course of a week. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18308 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:41:06 +0000 Eric 18308@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>The route to Capital is really pretty simple, and the climb over Mt Washington should really be included in any "hard" race in Pittsburgh. </p> <p>I was out for this race, brother home from Iraq this week, but I think I might be back in now, so more hilss and more cobbles for me please. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18307 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:38:14 +0000 BradQ 18307@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>Brutal. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18305 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:21:01 +0000 reddan 18305@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>Another term for "extra 7km on unfamiliar streets" is "adventure". What could possibly go wrong? I say leave Capital in.</p> <p>Awesome route either way. That's gonna hurt like nobody's business. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/page/2#post-18302 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:59:53 +0000 Dave 18302@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>Sample route w/o Capital:<br /> <a href="http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Pittsburgh-Roubaix-2009" rel="nofollow">http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Pittsburgh-Roubaix-2009</a></p> <p>Sample route w/ Capital:<br /> <a href="http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Pittsburgh-Roubaix-2009-w-Capital" rel="nofollow">http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Pittsburgh-Roubaix-2009-w-Capital</a><br /> (also reverses the order of Capital &#38; Wyoming checkpoints)</p> <p>I was leaning towards leaving Capital off because I'm not familiar with riding in South Hills and feel bad making a course that sends people somewhere I don't normally go. That said it only adds 7km and Capital is a pretty amazing stretch of cobbles.</p> <p>Thoughts? </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009#post-18290 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:06:32 +0000 Dave 18290@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>Yeah. The plan tonight is to break out Bikely and finalize stuff. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009#post-18288 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 03:15:27 +0000 steve k 18288@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>will the course be finalized by saturday morning so i can preride it? </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009#post-18253 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:03:26 +0000 Dave 18253@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>@reddan: one of the stops will be a water/PB&#38;J stop, but maybe we can add some PBR </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009#post-18252 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:00:25 +0000 Dave 18252@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>Yeah, that was my reservation w/ adding Capital. Unless there's an argument for keeping it I'll remove it, or make it an optional section w/ time bonus. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009#post-18248 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:36:13 +0000 BradQ 18248@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>I'm not familiar with the roads of the South Hills in the least really, and question my ability to safely navigate on that side of things without finding myself on roads I'd rather not ride on. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009#post-18243 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:10:24 +0000 Dave 18243@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>@Brad: too much? I haven't calculated the distance yet and am still going to drop some sections... any recommendations? For the flow of the race dropping Capital or Henriet, LaClare &#38; Laketon seems to make the most sense. Capital is just so far out there, but man is it an absolutely ridiculous set of cobbles. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009#post-18242 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:02:18 +0000 Dave 18242@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>I was thinking of making Capital optional as a time bonus. Any idea how long would be appropriate? </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009#post-18232 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:07:58 +0000 reddan 18232@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>I'm still vaguely hoping to come out and embarrass myself. </p> <p>Anyone wanna help form a "Back of the Pack with Booze and Bravado" brigade? </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009#post-18231 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:49:41 +0000 BradQ 18231@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>Hmm. I may admit defeat and sit this year's race out. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009#post-18226 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:11:01 +0000 Dave 18226@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>Here's a google version of the <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&#38;hl=en&#38;msa=0&#38;msid=117170434454405039244.00047165f4279f9654839&#38;ll=40.445249,-79.962273&#38;spn=0.093145,0.181446&#38;t=h&#38;z=13">course</a>. I added Capital, Bryn Mawr, Soho, Isabella &#38; Cordova. I'll probably want to drop some other legs. Feedback welcome! </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009#post-18173 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:22:50 +0000 Chris Mayhew 18173@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>Yeah, go up Wyoming, down Southern. Quick right on Arlington, left on 51 to W. Liberty, then up Capitol. Left on Pioneer and you're right back on W. Liberty. Up Southern again to go back over Mt. Washington or you can take Bausman up and over. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009#post-18170 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:11:07 +0000 TheLivingTed 18170@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>I really don't want to do this. </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009#post-18166 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:54:21 +0000 Dave 18166@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>@Brad: Yup, going to put together a Google Maps </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009#post-18160 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:44:29 +0000 BradQ 18160@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>Is there going to be a map of sorts for this one? </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009#post-18158 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:07:19 +0000 Dave 18158@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>And <strong>VOLUNTEERS NEEED!</strong> Volunteers get a sense of satisfaction and a high-five. PM or email me at <a href="mailto:dave@pghalleycat.com">dave@pghalleycat.com</a> </p> http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/topic/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009#post-18157 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:06:19 +0000 Dave 18157@http://bike-pgh.org/bbpress/ <p>Whew! Now that the balmy heaven is done, it's time to get this finalized. First, the flyer:</p> <p><a href="http://pghalleycat.com/races/pittsburgh-roubaix-2009/"><img src="http://pghalleycat.com/images/flyers/pr2009_flyer_500.jpg" /></a></p> <p>The route is <em>not</em> finalized, in fact I'm looking for input!</p> <p>The probably sections:</p> <p>Start: Flagstaff in Schenley<br /> 1. Broken cobbles past vistors center<br /> 2. Schenley fireroad to Panther Hollow lake (so that running the steps to go down Joncaire is harder)<br /> 3. Joncaire<br /> 4. Climax St. (cobbled spike off of Arlington in SSide slopes/Arlington)<br /> 5. Wyoming St. ("V" at the top of Sycamore)<br /> 6. Grant St.<br /> 7. Beuna Vista St. (northside)<br /> 8. E. Bergess St. (cobbles at the top of Suffolk)<br /> 9. S Side Ave. (in that neighborhood behind Spring Hill, basically right across 279 from Bergess)<br /> 10. Yetta (Spring Hill)<br /> 11. Chestnut St. (yes, this forces you to go back down)<br /> 12. Intersection of Mt. Troy Rd &#38; Hoffman Rd.<br /> 13. Kendall St. (replacing McCandles)<br /> 14. Murray Hill<br /> 15. Henrietta St.<br /> 16. LaClaire St.<br /> 17. Laketon Rd.</p> <p>I'm tempted to add Cordova St. (cobbled road to hobbit house) after Laketon since it's ridiculous (forces you to cross past washington boulevard) and also makes running down the trail to the oval a viable strategy.</p> <p>I cut the sandcastle parking lot railroad stones since that basically just forced people onto 837 and added some distance. I was thinking of cutting Laketon for the same reason, but I like the fact that that's a climb that only really hits you at the end.</p> <p>I'm tempted to add Capital Ave (off of West Liberty) since those cobbles are absolutely insane (thanks, Mayhew). I don't ride in the south hills enough to know where to add them... after Wyoming?</p> <p>I also wanted to add Bryn Mawr (brick/cobbled loop off of Centre in Oakland), Soho (uptown) &#38; maybe Chesterfield (Oakland). If so that will probably be right after Joncaire and before the Mt. Washington leg.</p> <p>All suggestions welcome. </p>