Crush the Commonwealth 2010

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  1. Eric

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    Posted 3 months ago

    Getting an early start on dates due to lots of interest.

    Thinking April 30 or May 7.

    I was considering April 23 too, but I'm going to be returning from a trip the previous weekend, and don't want to make it two weekends in a row.

    Some other events that are around the same time:

    DC Rando's 300 May 24

    Calvin's Challenge May 1st

    This is a West to East year.

    5th annual.

    Thoughts, comments?

  2. Mick

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    Posted 3 months ago

    AS someone mentioned, last year there was a heck of tail wind. This year is in the other direction? Good luck.

    Mick

    PS yer all crazy.

  3. joeframbach

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    Posted 3 months ago

    What is this?

  4. reddan

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    Posted 3 months ago

    See da blawg for the skinny.

    Couple of ride reports from last year: mine, DHD's.

    Hellacious good fun.

  5. joeframbach

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    Posted 3 months ago

    My legs hurt now, just from reading that.
    I've only finished one century before, and I had trouble walking after that. I think I'll pass on the CtC.

  6. Eric

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    Posted 3 months ago

    The blog gets worse very year, and still needs to be updated to get the directions set, it still has the west to east route from last year.

    The less work I put into this, the greater the number of people show up.

  7. reddan

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    Posted 3 months ago

    joeframbach: You'd be surprised how easy it is to go long distances...it's more a matter of pacing yourself and keeping up with your food and water ("Eat before you're hungry, drink before you're thirsty") than anything else. A certain disdain for common sense and accepted wisdom helps, too, of course.

    Eric: Challenge rides just seem to take on a life of their own...if ya really want to weed out the field, put on the CTC EXTREME there-and-back version you were threatening...

  8. Eric

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    Posted 3 months ago

    I'd still like to do that, but that might be a better ride to end the season rather than start. I'd hate to destroy my knees in May.

  9. alankhg

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    Posted 3 months ago

    Or just move the route to the Turnpike. That'll keep the posers away.

  10. Eric

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    Posted 3 months ago

    I think people are getting the wrong impression. I'm glad more people are showing up, just surprised how little work it is taking to keep this ride going, and getting bigger each year.

  11. reddan

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    Posted 3 months ago

    Sounds kinda analogous to the Dirty Dozen, really. I wouldn't be surprised to see 50+ people doing CTC in a few years time.

    The awesome thing about audacious rides like this is that it encourages people to try things they may not have otherwise thought possible.

    The other awesome thing is that, if it takes little work, there's less chance of burning out the organizer. :)

  12. joeframbach

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    Posted 3 months ago

    Perhaps I'll join the 50+ riders next year. Right now I can't foresee myself doing this this year.

    Another problem is that the Pittsburgh Marathon is May 2nd. For a full week after a marathon, I can't even look at my bike without throwing up.

  13. bjanaszek

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    Posted 3 months ago

    It's interesting to compare CTC with something like TransIowa, which was, I assume, an influence on the event (along with something like the Raid Californie-Oregon). From what I've read, TI is a mammoth undertaking (with a limited number of participants), and because it's a race, people get pissed.

    Good on you, Eric, for creating and sustaining a fun-loving event instead of Just Another Race.

  14. ndromb

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    Posted 3 months ago

    I hope I can get the time off work to do this. I never really paid much attention to this when it has popped up on the boards before, but it sounds awesome.

  15. Eric

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    Posted 3 months ago

    Honestly the biggest influence, rules-wise is the Great Divide Race. Much smaller in scope of course, but GDR's concepts of no prizes and racer responsibility for route finding are key to making this work.

    Also PennDot really is to thank here too. Without the PA bike routes this wouldn't happen. I'm not down with marking a course on public roadways, or making my own map. I have neither the time, compulsion or willingness to open myself up to the legal liability of doing an event like this. Next thing you know I need insurance, so I have to charge people, so I have to register them, then prizes will be next and the whiners will show up.

    Which leads me to thinking about the absolute lack of whining from participants (save for the first year). It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

  16. reddan

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    Posted 3 months ago

    Which leads me to thinking about the absolute lack of whining from participants

    It's hard to whine when you're having _that_ much fun. Or in _that_ much pain, whichever.

  17. erok

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    Posted 3 months ago

    did any of the first year complainers ever come back?

  18. Eric

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    Posted 3 months ago

    Nope. Got a few whiny posts on the old blog, and I think I might have poked at them a bit the next year on a Philly forum, but no one showed. Other than Chris (lockringnotincluded.blogspot.com) and Max, it's been pretty much all Western PA riders.

    Last year could have been different, I have no clue where a lot of the people were from. I think there were 2 dudes from Maryland?

    Little fact I just thought of, only 2 riders have finished all four years.

  19. reddan

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    Posted 3 months ago

    I think Ben was from Baltimore or DC or something like that. There were a couple of guys in from Chicago...both Jeremys?

    So what was the first-year whining about, anyway, for those of us who came late to the party?

  20. BradQ

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    Yeah, there was some guy who stayed at my house for a night or two before last year's CTC who was from Baltimore I think. Worked at Proteus bike shop, cool dude. Friend of a friend who was psyched on things and needed crash space prior to the event. I saw him at Interbike this year but didn't get to chat... by the time I remembered why his face was familiar I was pulled somewhere else.

  21. Eric

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    Posted 3 months ago

    Short version, not worth an effort for a long version.

    Group of 4 dudes from Philly showed up, asked at the start if they could pick their own route. I explained the rules to them, they went off course at first opportunity. Rode route 30 the entire way. Showed up at the after party, got mad when I declared Nick the winner. Got on Nick's case, challenged him to ride their route, etc. Also, much evidence of car support.

    That's about it.

  22. Eric

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    Posted 3 months ago

    Thanks for the info Brad. Sometimes I feel a little bad for not making an effort to figure out who people are. But often the first time I meet them it is 5am in the morning, and know one, including me knows what is going on. It probably doesn't help that I am always late to the start.

  23. TheLivingTed

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    Posted 3 months ago

    i'm voting for may 7th because, i believe, that's when Rob Lochner can make it. look out.

  24. TheLivingTed

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    Posted 3 months ago

    Brad, the proteus guy is Ben..me and him match sprinted from lancaster all the way to the bell and then i put him up at my sister's. Know his e mail??

  25. caitlin

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    Posted 3 months ago

    i little debbie's sponsoring this yet? I'll do it that year.

    jk. maybe ill do it one year. but uh, how about i just offer someone a place to crash.

  26. mark

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    Posted 3 months ago

    its possible i will do this this year, more possible than any other year

  27. erok

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    Posted 3 months ago

    there should be a "prize," ie. special pat on the back, for the most times riding this

  28. TheLivingTed

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    Posted 3 months ago

    i think this ride should be renamed the "Tour de Sheetz".

  29. joeframbach

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    Posted 3 months ago

    The Mon Valley Century was also pretty Sheetz-laden. It was the same Sheetz 3 times, but it was glorious every time.

  30. reddan

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    Posted 3 months ago

    Sheetz, Rutters, and Wawa...the ultracyclist havens of choice.

    I think Sheetz has the best made-to-order food, but Rutters has always had the edge for friendly employees willing to overlook cyclists napping in the corner by the coffee pot, IME.

  31. Eric

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    Posted 3 months ago

    I may follow through with my plan to buy a "I Heart Sheetz" T-shirt for the winner.

  32. Mick

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    Posted 3 months ago

    Wow! Eric don't you think the field will started getting crowded if you start giving out such envy-inducing prizes?

  33. erok

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    Posted 3 months ago

    Crush the MTO 2010

  34. Eric

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    Posted 3 months ago

    Please sign this petition if you love Crush the Commonwealth!

    http://www.freemybeer.com/

    Also, not sure which one is better:

  35. erok

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    Posted 3 months ago

    they both have their merits. the first one because if you don't know what it is it looks like you live shitz. the second because of the pennsylvania layer cake

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