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Notice of Public Mtg: Presentation on Liberty Ave Shared Lane Markings and Introduction of Bicycle Parking Ordinances for City of Pittsburgh

The Pittsburgh Department of City Planning will lead a public presentation regarding the Liberty Avenue Shared Lane Markings Experiment and introduce Bicycle Parking Ordinances for the City of Pittsburgh.

The purpose of the meeting is to present the results of the survey regarding the Liberty Avenue markings, present the Bicycle Parking Ordinances and gather feedback from the community. The markings are located along Liberty Avenue between the Bloomfield Bridge and Baum Boulevard. The parking ordinance projects will set requirements for bicycle parking during development and facilitate the installations of bike parking racks throughout the City of Pittsburgh.

The project team will be present at the public meeting to answer any questions and gather input concerning the proposed transportation improvements. Anyone who needs additional information, has special needs, or requires special aids should contact:
Michael Garcia
michael.garcia@city.pittsburgh.pa.us

West Penn Hospital
Winter Garden Room
4800 Friendship Avenue
City of Pittsburgh, PA

RE: Notice of Public Mtg: Presentation on Liberty Ave Shared Lane Markings and Introduction of Bicycle Parking Ordinances for City of Pittsburgh

Thats great and all, but what is the date and time of the meeting?

RE: Notice of Public Mtg: Presentation on Liberty Ave Shared Lane Markings and Introduction of Bicycle Parking Ordinances for City of Pittsburgh

ha! sorry, i just cut and pasted from our calendar of events and that part isn't cut-and-pasteable.

Monday 3/24
6:30 to 8PM

RE: Notice of Public Mtg: Presentation on Liberty Ave Shared Lane Markings and Introduction of Bicycle Parking Ordinances for City of Pittsburgh

How did the the other meeting, the one about Penn Ave, go? Is this one about expanding the shared lane markings, or is it a review of the one's they pained already?

RE: Notice of Public Mtg: Presentation on Liberty Ave Shared Lane Markings and Introduction of Bicycle Parking Ordinances for City of Pittsburgh

the penn ave one was more of a community input event put on by the city to see what residents, biz owners, etc would like to see done with some federal transportation dollars that the city received for the penn ave corrider. they were basically trying to see how best to put to use a small amount of money so that it will still have an impact that the neighbors at least in theory will like

RE: Notice of Public Mtg: Presentation on Liberty Ave Shared Lane Markings and Introduction of Bicycle Parking Ordinances for City of Pittsburgh

i might be able to come to this...
any idea what is meant by "parking ordinances"?

RE: Notice of Public Mtg: Presentation on Liberty Ave Shared Lane Markings and Introduction of Bicycle Parking Ordinances for City of Pittsburgh

The last proposal I had heard in the works had to do with parking. The City has a parking ordinance that requires that new construction or re-development (ie, a former industrial space being repurposed as commercial) must designate parking. Developers must build new parking or find parking available for the influx of users to their space. The proposal is to require developers to set aside a certain amount of space for bicycle parking.

For example, I know that Washington DC has such an ordinance requiring 5% bicycle parking; this works out to 199 car parking spaces and 1 parking space with room for 10 bicycles.

I'm wondering what Pittsburgh's ratio will be.

RE: Notice of Public Mtg: Presentation on Liberty Ave Shared Lane Markings and Introduction of Bicycle Parking Ordinances for City of Pittsburgh

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RE: Notice of Public Mtg: Presentation on Liberty Ave Shared Lane Markings and Introduction of Bicycle Parking Ordinances for City of Pittsburgh

that's exactly right. it would also make sure that architects are incorporating bike parking into the initial design instead of trying to retrofit the parking afterwards and scrambling to find a place to put it once they realize that, ooops, people are showing up on bikes and locking in places where they don't want bikes or are receiving complaints. see the new trader joes and the squirrel hill library for reference.

holy run-on sentence batman

RE: Notice of Public Mtg: Presentation on Liberty Ave Shared Lane Markings and Introduction of Bicycle Parking Ordinances for City of Pittsburgh

howed it go, i was out of town

RE: Notice of Public Mtg: Presentation on Liberty Ave Shared Lane Markings and Introduction of Bicycle Parking Ordinances for City of Pittsburgh

"introduce Bicycle Parking Ordinances for the City of Pittsburgh"

LOL... For a second that sounded like we are all going to be getting bike parking tickets.

I would not put it past this godforesaken broken down ass backwards city.

RE: Notice of Public Mtg: Presentation on Liberty Ave Shared Lane Markings and Introduction of Bicycle Parking Ordinances for City of Pittsburgh

Part 1 was the results of the survey as to how the Sharrows were doing. It was apparently all peaches and cream. The issues that were raised is that the success of the sharrows is completely to do with perception of safety and not actual safety. People feel safer and car drivers say they are paying more attention (based on under 100 survey responses). There are no actual statistics as to who dangerous Penn was or how much safer it may actually be.

The counter to that is if people feel safer then more people will ride. The more bikes out there, the safer it will actually be (based on actual studies elsewhere).

*shrug* You take what you can get, I suppose.

There was nothing about the door-zone bike lanes on the lower half of Penn. That was a different project.

Second was the parking ordinance with addressed the procedures for the installation of bike racks. Currently, there is an agreement and procedure with Bike Pgh for the installation of their racks but anyone else needs to follw the cumbersome and expensive rules for other sidewalk items like newspaper boxes and such. The proposal is to create a new ordinance and procedure so that anyone who wants to install bike racks can get them approved as ADA compatible and proceed. This responsibility would be that of the Bike/Ped coordinator, reinforcing that person's position and making it more likely that he gets funding in the budget.

The proposal for that was generally well received. There were some suggestions about adding flexability.

Thirdly, was the ordinance proposal that would require new development or re-tasking that required parking to also require that a certain percentage of those spaces be dedicated to bicycle parking. The guy who was working on that proposal didn't sho so we didn't get any details on what that percentage was going to be.

The best improvement to that was the suggestion that people who have existing parking have an easy way to convert spots to bicycle parking using the new procedures and ratios. But again, without the point guy being there, there wasn't very far it could go in discussions.

RE: Notice of Public Mtg: Presentation on Liberty Ave Shared Lane Markings and Introduction of Bicycle Parking Ordinances for City of Pittsburgh

nice summary. i just want to say that it was Liberty and not Penn in discussion.
as for the door-zone down-hill bikelane on liberty, the city and bike pgh are aware of the problems with it. the city said that the next time it needs to be re-painted they will look into changing it, probably into the "sharrows" type markings, which in my opinion is a better solution. its just a matter of when.

RE: Notice of Public Mtg: Presentation on Liberty Ave Shared Lane Markings and Introduction of Bicycle Parking Ordinances for City of Pittsburgh

I almost always mix up Penn and Liberty. Don't know why. Something (else) is not wired in my brain correctly.